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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#21 by Onlyflameone » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:11 am

Dustinmustdie- show me where tell me- i tryed so many times in wintergrasp and one more place forgot the name- but the mobs dont drop it- its hard obtainable from boss- waht about a mobb! I tryed and i cant get it thats why im asking- im not looking for an easy way but tehy dont add it and i cant find it at all...
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#22 by Dustinmustdie » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:05 am

In Wintergrasp? It drops in Winterspring, Sithilus, Felwood, Un'goro Crater, Alterac Valley, Western Plaguelands, Eastern Plaguelands, Dragonkin Elite boss that spwns in either Duskwod, Hinterlands, or Feralas.
MANY different location, none of which include Wintergrasp.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#23 by bongshots » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:46 am

lol in my opinion, voting and donation system sucks!
but i know that u have to keep it up, to get the money for paying the servers and having the commercials to get more new ppl !!
but okay i think that wrathful set and offset should be buyable over normal ways ingame!!
i dont get that i would have to pay 55 bucks for wrathful set WTH!?
i play a lot of arena that would make it possible to buy wrathful ingame set and weapons!
u just need the arena points and rating then u can do it!!
but its jsut imbalanced if some ppl have full warthful and shadowmourne or just some highlvl itemshit which all other players cant get, that just sucks!!!
if you want to make some highlevel items buyable than you have to provide that its possible to get them ingame the option of buying items should just be a fast way of getting good equipment!!
plz take this serious!!
its not only my mind im pretty sure about that!!
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#24 by Exjure » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:48 am

I would like to see Lich king heroic weapons for vote points, so you dont HAVE to get relentless.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#25 by Temypste » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:17 am

I think that you should sell the heroic Lich King weapons so that not just Dk's pallys and warrior are available to the strongest weapon. I think this would be fair to all the other palyers. These weapons should be the same price as shadowmourne: $35. The 1 handed weapons should be $17.50 each so if you get 2 its $35.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#26 by Vash » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:38 am

These are all excellent points, I will be speaking with my donation team today to see what we can improve on. Keep the suggestions coming!

Thanks for your input!
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#27 by Korenje » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:21 pm

Some companions for voting reward :D :
Murky: http://www.wowhead.com/item=20371
Gurky:http://www.wowhead.com/item=22114
Hippogryph Hatchling:http://www.wowhead.com/item=23713
Wind Rider Cub:http://www.wowhead.com/item=49663
Gryphon Hatchling:http://www.wowhead.com/item=49662
Core Hound Pup:http://www.wowhead.com/item=49646
10 points each;
Mounts:
Crimson Deathcharger:http://www.wowhead.com/item=52200 30 points
Invincible:http://www.wowhead.com/item=50818 50 points or even more

Then maybe an option for donating:A fee to "upgrade" your donor set? Wait, what? Well i was thinking, I donated for s7 set and weapon back in jan where there was obviously no s8 avivable yet. I came back 2 weeks ago after a half year break and noticed my donor set is kinda "worthless" now. So implenting an option for upgrading your donor set for a fee would be nice.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#28 by Dud » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:35 pm

Liljdog wrote:
Dud wrote:http://www.wowhead.com/item=46017
25 Vote Points

http://www.wowhead.com/item=50363#comments
20 Vote Points

doug, go check the donation site, they cost money, not vote points.


thats what i ment.... why does everyone think my names doug >.>
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#29 by Exjure » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:34 pm

I think you should reduce 1 tier 10 item to 10 $i personally were gonan buy one, when i saw 15 USD cost i thought to myself, NO way im not gonna buy spend half the money to shadowmourne one 1 item.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#30 by Andrewortola » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:53 pm

I would like to see the following 310% speed mount items for vote points:



1Violet Proto-Drake
http://www.wowwiki.com/Reins_of_the_Violet_Proto-Drake
This can cost 200 votes

2Ashes of Al'ar
http://www.wowwiki.com/Ashes_of_Al'ar
This can cost 300 votes

3Rusted Proto-Drake
http://www.wowwiki.com/Reins_of_the_Rusted_Proto-Drake
This can cost 200 votes

4 Ironbound Proto-Drake
http://www.wowwiki.com/Reins_of_the_Iro ... roto-Drake
This can cost 200 votes

5Bloodbathed Frostbrood Vanquisher
http://www.wowwiki.com/Reins_of_the_Blo ... Vanquisher
This can cost 300 votes

6Icebound Frostbrood Vanquisher
http://www.wowwiki.com/Reins_of_the_Ice ... Vanquisher
This can cost 300 votes

7X-53 Touring Rocket
http://www.wowwiki.com/X-53_Touring_Rocket
This can cost 300 votes

8Black Proto-Drake
http://www.wowwiki.com/Reins_of_the_Black_Proto-Drake
This can cost 200 votes
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#31 by Xxwarshadexx » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:27 pm

On the topic of Shadowmourne, I'm still wondering on whether or not it should even be implemented. Dustinmustdie suggested earlier that we could probably have the ICC-heroic weapons implemented, and I think that would be a much better alternative than giving everyone and their brother a legendary two-handed axe that does nearly 3-4k damage just on melee. I'm not saying we should remove the weapon entirely, because if the suggestion about PvP seasons actually becomes implemented then perhaps that could be one of the rewards?

I also know that should the decision be made to remove it that alot of people will rage about the money they spent and such. We could always let them choose from the list I'm about to cover.

I spoke to Cypher earlier and he even agreed that the possibility for the whole playerbase donating and running around with it makes him pretty nervous. Perhaps instead of Shadowmourne we could include such things as:

Havoc's Call, Blade of Lordaeron Kings

Mithrios, Bronzebeard's Legacy

Royal Scepter of Terenas II

Those are just some suggestions. The full list can be found here:

http://www.worldofraids.com/topic/15245 ... oot-table/


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Now, on the topic about things I would suggest, here's some of my suggestions and what they could be worth.

Miscellaneous:

Muradin's Favor
50 VP

Jaina's Locket (Only if Eternal-Staff plans to make more use of Dalaran)
50 VP

Tabard of the Lightbringer
$5 Donation, $10 gets you the tabard with stats.

Sylvanas' Music Box
50 VP

Foam Sword Rack
20 VP

Ogre Pinata
20 VP

The Flag of Ownership
10 VP

Mounts:

Blazing Hippogryph
20 VP

Magic Rooster Egg (For the LULZ)
15VP

Big Battle Bear
20 VP

Companions:

Tuskarr Kite
10 VP

Soul Trader Beacon
15 VP

Dragon Kite
10 VP

Banana Charm
10 VP
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#32 by Bypass » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:50 am

I highly suggest you guys put Wrathful weapons to voting rewards if you preparing to offer ICC-heroic weapons on donation. If not that would be very imbalance.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#33 by Xxwarshadexx » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:27 am

Wrathful weapons to voting rewards is a fair alternative, yes. They should be a relatively high amount though...something like 50 for a 1h and 75-100ish for 2h?
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#34 by infernalistgamer » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:03 am

I'd be interested in seeing some lower level things as well, as once you get a few heirlooms, your vote points seem unusable until level 80. Gold for votes? Perhaps something reasonable, say, 200gp for 10 votes? Or good bags, since the Redemption auction house seems so skewed. The Monster Bag, Portable Hole, and Frostweave Bag come to mind. Perhaps 20, 15, and 10 votes respectively? Finally, multi-seater mounts, such as the motorcycles, two-seater rocket, or even the three-seater mammoths would be nice to see on lists, as me and my boyfriend play together. Not sure what price you should charge, but I would hope not more than 100 votes or $20 donation.

I know I'm new and won't be donating for at least another month, but I hope when it's time, I have some choices I'll enjoy.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#35 by Kinle » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:13 am

Bypass wrote:I highly suggest you guys put Wrathful weapons to voting rewards if you preparing to offer ICC-heroic weapons on donation. If not that would be very imbalance.


I agree. I can take if a doner got full Wrathfuls and play with me. But ICC-heroic weapons are powerful > Wrathful weapons > Relentless weapons. A normal player can only reach to Relentless gears that is very unfair when he plays with ICC-heroic weapons equipped player.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#36 by Theburkey » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:43 am

Heroic ICC = Wrathful Mainsets

277 = 277

Pro Comp = Pro
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#37 by Bypass » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:27 am

25 raid Heroic ICC weapons = 284, not 277.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#38 by Liljdog » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:45 am

if it's already on the donation items list, it's highly probable that they won't change it to vote points at all.
And the magic rooster egg is bugged :(
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#39 by Bypass » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:22 pm

After reconsidering here's my formal offer:

[wowitem=51943]Halion, Staff of Forgotten Love[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=51942]Stormfury, Black Blade of the Betrayer[/wowitem]
75 Vote points

[wowitem=51946]Warmace of Menethil[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=51941]Pugius, Fist of Defiance[/wowitem]
75 Vote points

[wowitem=51945]Tainted Twig of Nordrassil[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=51939]Telthas, Dagger of the Blood King[/wowitem]
75 Vote points

[wowitem=51947]Troggbane, Axe of the Frostborne King[/wowitem]
75 Vote points

[wowitem=51944]Valius, Gavel of the Lightbringer[/wowitem]
75 Vote points

[wowitem=51940]Windrunners Heartseeker[/wowitem]
75 Vote points


[wowitem=50070]Glorenzelg, High-Blade of the Silver Hand[/wowitem]
125 Vote points

[wowitem=49981]Falinrush, Defender of Quelthalas[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=50429]Archus, Greatstaff of Antonidas[/wowitem]
125 Vote points

[wowitem=50425]Oathbinder, Charge of the Ranger-General[/wowitem]
125 Vote points

[wowitem=50428]Royal Scepter of Terenas II[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=50012]Havocs Call, Blade of Lordaeron Kings[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=50427]Bloodsurge, KelThuzads Blade of Agony[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=49997]Mithrios, Bronzebeards Legacy[/wowitem]
100 Vote points

[wowitem=50426]Heavens Fall, Kryss of a Thousand Lies[/wowitem]
100 Vote points


All of those weapons are drops from normal 25 and heroic 10 ICC, lower than Wrathful and 25 raid Heroic ICC but some better than Relentless.

So donars can get 277 "Wrathful" + 284 "Heroic 25" ICC weapons.
Normal players can get 258 "Relentless" + 271 "Normal 25" and "Heroic 10" ICC weapons.

I think that would be fair for everyone.
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Re: Donation and Vote Reward Items

#40 by dominate57390 » Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:52 pm

Ive ben on alot of servers and from retail and everything and for PvP this is by far the best server. But theres just one problem with it. No one can get the best gear unless they donate, and what do people want? They want to be able to get the best gear. Which they cant unless they donate, and you would get alot more people to come and stay on the server. I mean what are people looking for when they think of PvP? Arena, BGs, and Wrathful but here they cant getWrathful unless they donate which is why alot of people leave. To keep people to get more donors, you have to give people furiours which is done, then make them earn relentless and wrathful. Instead of haveing maybe 10 donors? That just get bored because its no challenge to them? Which is why alot of people dont donate, whats the fun if you faceroll everyone? It isnt fun its boring people want a challenge, and to get that they need to earn their gear like all the wrathful gear and weapons which would be more arena points then relentless of course. But have really good weapons..which you have... for pople that want alittle bit of an edge but not a huge edge, that way people can earn the best gear on this server and also have fun because itd be more like what alot of people want. Ive talked to alot of people on the server and theyd defently play more if there was wrathful but relentless? nothing really to work towards its not the best. So to get more people on the server and to keep more people this is the way to go, and for Voteing thats a good system you got going there. So to keep people and get more people to really make this the #1 server. Give the people what they want not the 2nd best gear but the best and for donors let them get better weps and cool mounts and that good stuff. Thanks :)

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Have the really good weapons that you have now for donors*** that way its an edge for donors but not a huge edge. That way alot more peope will donate just for that little bit of an advantage, like to get shadowmourne and stuff which is better then the wrathful weps, which is what people will have, So youll get a ton more donors just by doing that. Thanks ageain :)
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