[flyngnosis]

There's one change that has had me perplexed before we did it and even now, and that is the addition of S9. I really didn't want to do it, but didn't see any alternative to keep the realm alive via donations. It doesn't seem to have affected the population, just angered some people.

This is super revealing. I wonder what the response to this would be on the VIP forum. IF s9 was a mistake (which it wasnt) then wrathful for donation was a mistake too... The gear spread now (regardless of what is said) between s9 and rele/wrathful...is DRAMATICALLY decreased compared to Full wrath vs Full rele.

Cypher please stop considering the moaning of the fickle children that just want more or the server will suffer. Nearly everyone agrees things were better before the "Upgrade", DESPITE the vote that THEY ALL MADE to 1) decrease the strength of new gear, and the GM's hidden agenda to 2) Decrease donation gear strength. Now the community has exactly what it wanted: a bigger gear gap. And its all they can do to keep from pissing themselves crying about it.

On top of that your s9 comment is completely exasperating. S9 is a 5 piece. Just that is a nerf from wrath vs rele... S9 is 10% less powerful than wrath vs rele was. The fact: within one sloppy/weak week of play EVERYONE had wrathful offset = >60$ of donor gear... not to mention the rings, trinkets, capes... maybe 3 items are out of reach of average poor players' 1 month investment... Your nubs are rightfully unhappy, your mid-class is crying despite giving them what they wanted, and your donors have gotten the shaft too.

All of this on top of repeated requests to fix class skill issues etc - which would have been effort better spent than all this gear grind/spread mess.

Yep, its officially broken-ish.

[Cenariuz]

just angered some people.

and anger lead ppl to leave the server ....

let me be more clear .....

if u made the server more fair... like another server ( i wont even mention it )

u will maybe have 3k player in the server ( like they have )

and u maybe get 10% of the 3k donaterz so u will have like 300 donater in ur server ...

but if u made ur server like this ?? ( really unfair ) u will have like now ... only about 700-600 player ... let's say with ur unfair system u have like 30% donater ...so u have like 180 donater ......got my point ?? ... 180 or 300 ??..pick one ...

unfair system doesnt make ppl pay money ... it make them leave ....

please stop treat basic playerz like sheeps by putting them On A plate for donaterz ^^ ....

[Ryuudan]

just angered some people.

and anger lead ppl to leave the server ....

You missed a very important part of his message. We haven't been losing players.

[Ryuudan]

This post was deleted by Ryuudan on Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:28 pm.

[augustvalek]

what I hate about eternal?, well, first of all, I can't get all the achievements done, I know there are insanely hard to get achievements, but if i try to get a simple fishing achievement, i can't because the price is a mount that any body can get by voting or donating, but it's not the mount what bothers me, f**** the mount, voting won't give me the achievement

And other thing it's the big amount of bugged quests, maybe it's not so bad at first, cause there are a lot of low level quests, but when you get to icecrown and see how many daily quests are bugged, it's simply ridiculous.

BUT WAIT, HOLY MOTHER OF GOD, CUSTOM GEAR???

I left the server 5 months ago, cause I was mad... and I have a medicine student life , but with vacations comes the fun right?, so I decided to give eternal another shot, "It's not so bad, I still can get some pvp fun" I said (even when the donors are like gods amongst the rest of us, specially when you char it's been lvl 80) for a short time). And now I find out about CUSTOM GEAR, oh guys, you have gone too far, I guess there it's no more eternal for me, not with the things that originally get me out of here, the new "improvements" to the server, and some other things that I just found out reading this post.

[Ryuudan]

And other thing it's the big amount of bugged quests, maybe it's not so bad at first, cause there are a lot of low level quests, but when you get to icecrown and see how many daily quests are bugged, it's simply ridiculous.

You have pretty high expectations of a private server. Perhaps this is the first server you're trying out?

We're one of the servers with least bugged content around. Maybe you should be looking at playing retail instead, since apparently the most common issue among private servers seem to bother you to this extent.

[alandiel1]

My post might be harsh / removed / bad but i think i speak the truth.
Donors , custom items , classes that are broken in a UNBALANCED way ( DK , shaman , armor pen classes mostly) should be removed / fixed . But custom items should definitely be removed and donors should get wrath , if you dont want to wait 1-2 -3 999 days , weeks etc for it then go ahead and donate . For a server that its bases on PVP (items) that little edge you get can just ruin the whole game.
No wonder you guys lost so many players .

+1

Also there is a very weird thing happening that a lot of noob-ish people laughed at me.

The thing is that when you spam some heals on yourself while anywhere in the world (e.g my pala heals with flash for 4.9-5-3k normal)
BUT when you enter a bg or arena it drops to 4.2-4.6 ( without any buffs or DEBUFFS which a lot of scrubs though thats what i was saying) This is really not working as intended .

Don't take it in any wrong way but that is intended by blizzard. In the first WotLK season when they removed healing and the healers got spell power instead the healing was too much compared to the damage output of the DPS classes, so the base healing in Battlegrounds and Arenas got reduced by..10-15-ish percent (can't be really sure it was years ago). So what you're experiencing is normal.

[alexumad]

Anyway you guys need and MUST remove CUSTOM ITEMS or this server i can guarantee it wont raise it will drop . Those trinkets which come from events are way too OP for anyone .
People do not leave because of donors or bugs they leave because of custom items which makes anything that require skills to be simply faceroll.
Have you even seen your trinkets and what stats they give , they are like 4 trinkets in 1 maybe even more.

Look at this server as a product , and there is a saying do you even use your own product !?

[Cenariuz]

You missed a very important part of his message. We haven't been losing players.

i dont know ... but ... im the only person around saw this server get over 1k player ?....

now it's only 600-700 ?.......

dunno if u care about this 300-400 player who left or not!!!but .... that's really small number to be noticed ?!!!

[Ryuudan]

I think you just looked at the peak time one day and then haven't been around during any of our peaks at all.

[Jammydodger37]

I completely disagree with all the 'Donor' complaints. These are the people that are helping to keep the server alive and running, (some people may also view it as the people who are paying for 'you' to play) these are also the people that have paid quite a large sum of money to help improve their own gameplay and surrounding players conistantly 'abusing' donors do not have the right to do so.People QQ about donors all the time however its somthing you just have to deal with. If your so self obsessed and obliviant of the fact donators just want to play the server like everyone else then you really need to pipe down.
Donators are not the problem to eternal failing to meet complex and confusing expectations, its the fact that unfortunately the busy developers that are putting endless time and effort into the other realms on the server and just havent got round to stitching up eternals issues. The staff who work for eternal are indefinately a great attriubute to the server, its just players that have no patience and who think playing a game that they should be paying for has to be 100% perfect are being completely misslead. All private servers have buggs, and its somthing new private players are also going to have to get used to.
The only main issue with eternal at this moment in time is the classes... gear and every other aspect in my opinion is all balenced and working well.
Thats all.

[Mattmeck1]

This post was deleted by Mattmeck1 on Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:09 pm.