[Cyph3r]

Please give your opinions here.

[wdhansewd]

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[TheLoneWolf]

It's not broke itself, It's mainly classes that have me bothered.


Hunters mainly, Enhancement Shamans are broke as well and need some real work. The Proper Stat Limits as well would be nice. Like were armor Pen is so broke you can get 119%+ on a Fury Warrior.

Things like that

[micahleevincent]

i love eternal to death, the only downfall that bothers me are class skills that do not work (ie warlock and ret pally)

[fandb]

the server has great oportunities but unobtainable donor stuff kills them all

[Cenariuz]

ofc it's broken .... this server was really the best pvp server i ever saw .......but that b4 u think about making custom gear ....

and let me explain to u ... whats wrong about it .....

b4 ( old dayz ) ^^.... u had to play 1 month to get rentles ... and to be -1x lower from wrathful / donor gear ........
now u have to play 1 month to get rentless ... to be -2x lower from ( custom gear )donor gear ......

and another 6-5 months to be -1x lower from (custom gear )donor gear ..........

u want me to play 6 months to be -1x lower from donor gear ?????? u should be kidding ....

i moved to another server since u did that .... and the server im playing @ ? ... donors get wrathful ... and u have to play 2-3 months only to be equal to the donors ...
fair server which make u donate and pay for ( Shorten the time of getting gears )
but here ?... u pay to be better than the other ppl and to be (Hunter in the country of sheep ) .......

[ehrnsten]

It's not broke itself, It's mainly classes that have me bothered.


Hunters mainly, Enhancement Shamans are broke as well and need some real work. The Proper Stat Limits as well would be nice. Like were armor Pen is so broke you can get 119%+ on a Fury Warrior.

Things like that

armor penetrastion and haste rating is based on your lvl, if you are lvl 80 and have 1000 armor penetration u almost are capped. but as a lvl 255 you loses armorn pen for each lvl

[Jaaumziin]

sure it is, cuz eternal dont have nothing to do, i bought a s9 and thats is OP cuz now u need to play lot of time to get a shit relentless, and dont say skills counts more cuz, a rele vs a s9 u need to be awesome and on a private server we dont have ppl like this, its 1 guy per 100 player is skilled, i spended 75 bucks for nothing, cuz now i migrated to redemption and that server ROX, on eternal u guys need to spend more time on achievment bugs and other things, at least pvp achievs must be working. If its possible, for sure ill transfer my eternal gear to redemption.

eternal failed hard with s9, too expansive, too OP, noobish gear, i regretted to buy that.

[Razlirak]

I agree with Cenariuz completely. The fact that you have to work hard to be "close" to donors doesn't make sense. He's right "hunter in sheep country". You guys did a great job in making Wrathful a donor item, and there are tons that want to donate for that quick and easy obtainability. Now that you guys opened the door to custom items, now that becomes a problem to players in general. Yea being a donator myself I would have an advantage over players, but I don't want to go as far as the fact that my gear is something they can't get unless they donate. In PvP I want that equal match, battle of the wits with others. So right now, the server is sitting on the "wtf" aspect of pvp.

And I will also concur with the above posts as far as classes need to be worked on as well.

[alexumad]

My post might be harsh / removed / bad but i think i speak the truth.
Donors , custom items , classes that are broken in a UNBALANCED way ( DK , shaman , armor pen classes mostly) should be removed / fixed . But custom items should definitely be removed and donors should get wrath , if you dont want to wait 1-2 -3 999 days , weeks etc for it then go ahead and donate . For a server that its bases on PVP (items) that little edge you get can just ruin the whole game.
No wonder you guys lost so many players .

[idlafel]

My post might be harsh / removed / bad but i think i speak the truth.
Donors , custom items , classes that are broken in a UNBALANCED way ( DK , shaman , armor pen classes mostly) should be removed / fixed . But custom items should definitely be removed and donors should get wrath , if you dont want to wait 1-2 -3 999 days , weeks etc for it then go ahead and donate . For a server that its bases on PVP (items) that little edge you get can just ruin the whole game.
No wonder you guys lost so many players .

+1

Also there is a very weird thing happening that a lot of noob-ish people laughed at me.

The thing is that when you spam some heals on yourself while anywhere in the world (e.g my pala heals with flash for 4.9-5-3k normal)
BUT when you enter a bg or arena it drops to 4.2-4.6 ( without any buffs or DEBUFFS which a lot of scrubs though thats what i was saying) This is really not working as intended .

[gooski]

Holy shit cypher. All those ideas would insta-make the realm so good, I'm excited to see if you put your theory into practice.

*Waits patiently*

[nickotino]

Holy shit cypher. All those ideas would insta-make the realm so good, I'm excited to see if you put your theory into practice.

*Waits patiently*

I really do hope you are patient cause it will take a long ass time to fix those things.

@op, i do my pvping on redemption (for personal reasons), but i would like to give some feedback:

one major issue is the huge gap between deadly gear and custom gear.
now im not suggesting to removed neither of them, but maybe if there was a way to prevent these two sets of gear from 'clashing' ... maybe setting a few wsg, ab and sota bgs that doesnt let s9 gear in and others(same bgs) that dont let deadly gear in.
i dont know if this is doable tho...

[rubikkk]

I agree with Cenariuz completely. The fact that you have to work hard to be "close" to donors doesn't make sense. He's right "hunter in sheep country". You guys did a great job in making Wrathful a donor item, and there are tons that want to donate for that quick and easy obtainability. Now that you guys opened the door to custom items, now that becomes a problem to players in general. Yea being a donator myself I would have an advantage over players, but I don't want to go as far as the fact that my gear is something they can't get unless they donate. In PvP I want that equal match, battle of the wits with others. So right now, the server is sitting on the "wtf" aspect of pvp.

And I will also concur with the above posts as far as classes need to be worked on as well.

I completly agree....It's NOT acceptable in a BattleGround to have 6~10 Alliance donors.... They simply kill you with 3 blows... At least give us back the furious gear , because all older characters are with it and are nuking the newer ones... The socketing gems are with honor(those who weren't with it) Trinkets, rings,cloaks.... I'm sure no one will give 50k honor for http://www.wowhead.com/item=50198 or something like that... I noticed , that after the update, many players have abandoned the server... Every good server has to fall someday, just hoping that at least Eternal won't fall...

[deathsite2004]

Umm, broken being defined as..... Random server crashes every 2 hours, Unfair PVP, Priests op...Nobody follows the rules..... DD DM take forever to collect. Mass confusion.... yeah, pretty broken..


<Edit>
is there a reason it crashes at exactly 1H and 43M?

[fartface123]

K plain and simple, im not even gonna read all this crap above me to verify whats been said and hasnt, heres the key problems and even solutions. I saw this realm failing ages back when new gear was brought out "the wrong way". The gear u start in to the wrath gear u want time frame is a joke for anyone, yes even too plp with no lives, it needs to be something reasonable, like a char can be geared in 2 weeks (seems short go check the most hardcore elitist pvp realm 3.3.5 arena tourney works like a charm to have daily point resets, it lets plp see there rewards in a more reasonable timeframe for a priv server) so think about daily resets. Next when i heard gear above wrath for donors was available with money it was bound to fail. look i understand u need money to run the server(hence wanting new donations, no money lasts forever) but since now we start with deadly or some shit its just a joke being so many gear levels behind. sure lols from donors in arena, but will donors be loling when theres no server to be OP on cause noone likes it? Donors should be happy with the fact a char can be made full ready to roll max geared, let non donors reach the same level that donors can. Honestly if someone wants there char decked and cbf gearing they will donate, specially if wrath gear has rating req's, EG. 1850 for weap 2.2 for shoulders. Lastly but def not least i saw these new trinkets being added in for idk what reason, there orange and have outrageuous stats and a socket i think. common u think ur gonna get the good players (which bring more players) with that kind of unatural gear. Stick to whats in the game normally. Lastly FFS get off ur arse and fix lifebloom dispel mechanism, every other realm has its making rdruids useless without some sort of defense to dispel.

Lastly u all suck at this game since me an Medushi got rank 4 twice with just furious gear n maybe 1 relent after new donor gear came out, cept shawtey who needs you to send him seashells if u have some spare cause hes poor. thnx

[Vikman]

The aspect of this server used to be "experience the best blizz-like PVP realm ever" or something like that.You can remove that from the description.
Donors should be able to get normal gear faster,for which regular players should work for.
Stop the greed for money,having s8 as donor still brings donors,since its quite hard to get full s8 by working.
I don't really have any problems with s9 ppl,but its just how it needs to be.
Another problem is updating/developing.Haven't seen an Eternal update for like 6 months.
Stop telling us that there are no developers to take care for the realms.If you dont have people,why did you opened more servers? Makes no sense.Most of my suggestions were ignored,posted like 6,and ryuu shows up telling me that there are no people for all the realms.6 servers are beyond your power,it clearly seems that the staff isn't professional.
Basically,you're telling us that posting suggestions=waste of time.
Idk who destroyed this server,but im sure the players have no fault here...its you.Ask Cypher and he'll tell you how awesome this server was like 1 yr and a half ago.

[Cenariuz]

as far as i can see ... the opinions here is more important than the main topic @ the eternal section ...

i hope cyph3r take carefully look @ this topic too ....

[Cyph3r]

Your points are well taken, but there is so much misinformation here as well.

Another problem is updating/developing.Haven't seen an Eternal update for like 6 months.

Obviously, there's been updates in the last 6 months... As some of those updates are the source of complaints here...

My post might be harsh / removed / bad but i think i speak the truth.
Donors , custom items , classes that are broken in a UNBALANCED way ( DK , shaman , armor pen classes mostly) should be removed / fixed . But custom items should definitely be removed and donors should get wrath , if you dont want to wait 1-2 -3 999 days , weeks etc for it then go ahead and donate . For a server that its bases on PVP (items) that little edge you get can just ruin the whole game.
No wonder you guys lost so many players .

Actually, our player base has remained steady since implementing these changes. It was *because* of a player drop that we implemented these changes, in an attempt to stop the player loss. But actually, looking back, I think the player loss probably had a lot more to do with the Remorse realm launch than anything being terrible wrong, as reviewing stats along these timeline shows that the Eternal population dropped about in half within weeks after the Remorse launch (this was before any changes were brought into the mechanics that were basically unchanged since the launch of Eternal).

There's one change that has had me perplexed before we did it and even now, and that is the addition of S9. I really didn't want to do it, but didn't see any alternative to keep the realm alive via donations. It doesn't seem to have affected the population, just angered some people.

[Crayolaman]

My post might be harsh / removed / bad but i think i speak the truth.
Donors , custom items , classes that are broken in a UNBALANCED way ( DK , shaman , armor pen classes mostly) should be removed / fixed . But custom items should definitely be removed and donors should get wrath , if you dont want to wait 1-2 -3 999 days , weeks etc for it then go ahead and donate . For a server that its bases on PVP (items) that little edge you get can just ruin the whole game.
No wonder you guys lost so many players .

+1

Also there is a very weird thing happening that a lot of noob-ish people laughed at me.

The thing is that when you spam some heals on yourself while anywhere in the world (e.g my pala heals with flash for 4.9-5-3k normal)
BUT when you enter a bg or arena it drops to 4.2-4.6 ( without any buffs or DEBUFFS which a lot of scrubs though thats what i was saying) This is really not working as intended .

Yeah me too but my dps drops to the hundreds on ruin (which is normaly in the thousands), which is crazy. Maybe the donators items drop my dps THAT MUCH, but i think not. Ive stopped playing untill this is fixed.