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#21 Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:45 am by Natax
Lol I don't think you understand the point in testing. If we actually did stuff with commands, then if something was broke along the way, we would not find it so it could be fixed. That is how testing works, that is how retail does it, that is how ANY tester for ANY video game tests their product. Not to mention on the PTR it is instant 80 and we have everything available free of charge to do our testing.
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#22 Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:14 am by MagicFlosse
Main work for most fixes lie on the helpers, who need to test and mess with that actual stuff we or trinity creates ;)
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#23 Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:26 am by Osmium
The warrior 4pct10 shouldn't be 5% increase of damage. It should actually be a chance for a double bloodsurge proc. http://wotlk.openwow.com/?itemset=-259
It was changed to 5% damage in cata :)


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#24 Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:21 am by Natax
Here is some knowledge. Click this link http://www.wowhead.com/guide=3.3&tier10#set-bonuses
Then go down and find the set bonuses then click on Warrior set under damage.
Obvserve the 5% bonus from the 4p set.
Note that this is a guide for 3.3 update for WoW.
Note that we are on 3.3.5, which makes the 3.3 update valid.
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#25 Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:32 am by antipervert
Haha fun to see it go public,
I think this basically covers what we do, besides weekly testing.
More testing = quicker fixes

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#26 Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:16 am by Alia
Natax wrote:Here is some knowledge. Click this link http://www.wowhead.com/guide=3.3&tier10#set-bonuses
Then go down and find the set bonuses then click on Warrior set under damage.
Obvserve the 5% bonus from the 4p set.
Note that this is a guide for 3.3 update for WoW.
Note that we are on 3.3.5, which makes the 3.3 update valid.
We do our homework, as does our devs.

As Osmium already said, you're wrong. The correct 4 T10 bonus for warriors is:

4 pieces: You have a 20% chance for your Bloodsurge and Sudden Death talents to grant 2 charges of their effect instead of 1, reduce the global cooldown on Execute or Slam by 500.1 sec, and for the duration of the effect to be increased by 100%.
( from http://wotlk.openwow.com/?itemset=-259 )

Screenshot showing the T10 armor bonuses:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4449/dpsset.jpg

+5% damage is the Cataclysm bonus. Wowhead isn't reliable anymore when it's about 3.3.5 infos, there're too many mistakes on that site now.
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#27 Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:24 am by Spikestrike
Alia wrote:
Natax wrote:Here is some knowledge. Click this link http://www.wowhead.com/guide=3.3&tier10#set-bonuses
Then go down and find the set bonuses then click on Warrior set under damage.
Obvserve the 5% bonus from the 4p set.
Note that this is a guide for 3.3 update for WoW.
Note that we are on 3.3.5, which makes the 3.3 update valid.
We do our homework, as does our devs.

As Osmium already said, you're wrong. The correct 4 T10 bonus for warriors is:

"4 pieces: You have a 20% chance for your Bloodsurge and Sudden Death talents to grant 2 charges of their effect instead of 1, reduce the global cooldown on Execute or Slam by 500.1 sec, and for the duration of the effect to be increased by 100%."
( from http://wotlk.openwow.com/?itemset=-259 )

Screenshot showing the T10 armor bonus:

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+5% damage is the Cataclysm bonus. Wowhead isn't reliable anymore when it's about 3.3.5 infos, there're too many mistakes on that site now.


Okay i will go back and test this again, this discussion can stop now because this thread is not about who is right or wrong it's about showing that helper's dont just sit around fapping all day long.
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#28 Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:53 pm by Natax
Alia wrote:
Natax wrote:Here is some knowledge. Click this link http://www.wowhead.com/guide=3.3&tier10#set-bonuses
Then go down and find the set bonuses then click on Warrior set under damage.
Obvserve the 5% bonus from the 4p set.
Note that this is a guide for 3.3 update for WoW.
Note that we are on 3.3.5, which makes the 3.3 update valid.
We do our homework, as does our devs.

As Osmium already said, you're wrong. The correct 4 T10 bonus for warriors is:

4 pieces: You have a 20% chance for your Bloodsurge and Sudden Death talents to grant 2 charges of their effect instead of 1, reduce the global cooldown on Execute or Slam by 500.1 sec, and for the duration of the effect to be increased by 100%.
( from http://wotlk.openwow.com/?itemset=-259 )

Screenshot showing the T10 armor bonuses:

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+5% damage is the Cataclysm bonus. Wowhead isn't reliable anymore when it's about 3.3.5 infos, there're too many mistakes on that site now.


That link is for the 3.3 update. And we play on 3.3.5. So therefore it IS correct. Please read what the link actually says please. Also, you have to realize, there are 2 different sets. 1 is for tanking one is for DPS, the DPS one is the one for the 5% bonus. The tanking one is the one you are referring to.
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#29 Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:50 pm by Spikestrike
I've went back and re-tested it with it's true effect and the effect is still messed up. Slam doesnt get it's double effect from the set bonus so that needs to be fixed.
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#30 Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:06 am by Kryptk
^to previous poster saying wowhead ain't reliable. try old.wowhead, i found another good one as well but i dont remember the name of it atm


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#31 Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:22 am by Alia
Natax wrote:
Alia wrote:As Osmium already said, you're wrong. The correct 4 T10 bonus for warriors is:

4 pieces: You have a 20% chance for your Bloodsurge and Sudden Death talents to grant 2 charges of their effect instead of 1, reduce the global cooldown on Execute or Slam by 500.1 sec, and for the duration of the effect to be increased by 100%.
( from http://wotlk.openwow.com/?itemset=-259 )

Screenshot showing the T10 armor bonuses:

1921

+5% damage is the Cataclysm bonus. Wowhead isn't reliable anymore when it's about 3.3.5 infos, there're too many mistakes on that site now.


That link is for the 3.3 update. And we play on 3.3.5. So therefore it IS correct. Please read what the link actually says please. Also, you have to realize, there are 2 different sets. 1 is for tanking one is for DPS, the DPS one is the one for the 5% bonus. The tanking one is the one you are referring to.

Screenshots taken at the plate armor vendor in Dalaran, Redemption realm:

DPS set and its bonuses: http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4449/dpsset.jpg

Set Bonuses
Wearing more pieces of this set will convey bonuses to your character.

2 pieces: When your Deep Wounds ability deals damage you have a 3% chance to gain 16% attack power for 10 sec.
4 pieces: You have a 20% chance for your Bloodsurge and Sudden Death talents to grant 2 charges of their effect instead of 1, reduce the global cooldown on Execute or Slam by 500.1 sec, and for the duration of the effect to be increased by 100%.

from http://wotlk.openwow.com/?itemset=-240


Tanking set and its bonuses: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6533/tankingset.jpg

Set Bonuses
Wearing more pieces of this set will convey bonuses to your character.

2 pieces: Your Shield Slam and Shockwave abilities deal 20% increased damage.
4 pieces: Your Bloodrage ability no longer costs health to use, and now causes you to absorb damage equal to 20% of your maximum health. Lasts d.


from http://wotlk.openwow.com/?itemset=-241


About old.wowhead, it's not any better than the regular wowhead. I'm not going to look for it but we've shown in another thread that they are mixing datas from cata and pre-cata. On the example I took the item tooltip was from 4.x.x, even though we were on old.wowhead
So to avoid misunderstandings, like the one we're having here, it's better to use openwow.com as reference.
Also, thanks to Spikestrike for re-testing that T10 bonus.


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#32 Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:07 am by dmgab
Well, Spikestrike doesn't surprise me you did this post. You are active on forums giving us more that "Locked" "No, shut up" actions. I hope all of the staff keeps listening to the real community and cover your eyes when you see all those trolls, bashers, hackers, abusers, that are around.

-- Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:17 am --

Spikestrike wrote:Issue: Core/Spells: Fix Warrior's T10 4P DPS Bonus.
What Should Happen: All damage is increased by 5%. http://www.wowhead.com/spell=70847
Results: Exactly what is suppose to happen. All my damage was increased by 5% as per the set effect.
Tested by/with: [Senior Helper]Spike


The correct 4P dps bonus:


(4) Set: You have a 20% chance for your Bloodsurge and Sudden Death talents to grant 2 charges of their effect instead of 1, reduce the global cooldown on Execute or Slam by 0.5 sec, and for the duration of the effect to be increased by 100%.
Link: http://www.wowwiki.com/Ymirjar_Lord%27s_Battlegear

Trinity Stuff:

case 46916: // Slam! (Bloodsurge proc)

+ case 52437: // Sudden Death

+ {

+ // Item - Warrior T10 Melee 4P Bonus

+ if (AuraEffect const* aurEff = GetAuraEffect(70847, 0))

+ {

+ if (!roll_chance_i(aurEff->GetAmount()))

+ break;

+ CastSpell(this, 70849, true, castItem, triggeredByAura); // Extra Charge!

+ CastSpell(this, 71072, true, castItem, triggeredByAura); // Slam GCD Reduced

+ CastSpell(this, 71069, true, castItem, triggeredByAura); // Execute GCD Reduced

+ }

+ break;

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#33 Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:34 am by Spikestrike
I made the appropriate correction's on the main post in the staff discussions so it's correct now with all the correct set bonus' and everything.

Oh and i dont know if the first part of your post was meant to troll me or to compliment me so i wont respond yet.
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#34 Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:50 pm by Eifion
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#35 Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:02 pm by warlock4life
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#36 Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:27 pm by witzat
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#37 Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:08 am by Kaenus
The quests dont work:
Raptor Captor
Corrosion Prevention
Nat's Bargain

All the above 3 quests are in Dustwallow Marsh and are mentioned as working, but they are not....or maybe they got bugged recently.
You dont get credit for first 2 quests, whereas the shark doesnt spawn for 3rd quest.
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#38 Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:39 pm by itzdevin
Wow I love how the "OMG A GIRL IN WOW" thread got more attention than this. Pathetic
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#39 Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:14 pm by Natax
Kaenus wrote:The quests dont work:
Raptor Captor
Corrosion Prevention
Nat's Bargain

All the above 3 quests are in Dustwallow Marsh and are mentioned as working, but they are not....or maybe they got bugged recently.
You dont get credit for first 2 quests, whereas the shark doesnt spawn for 3rd quest.


You do realize that what we actually posted was what we are working on in the PTR correct? Meaning on the live realm, it is more than likely bugged or we wouldn't be testing it on the PTR. Also, If you have an issue, post it in the correct section please. Thank you.
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#40 Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:43 am by Raidsurvivor7
Please please Fic Therylune's escape and The plagued Lands. These Quests Give a player a good amount of gold and XP.


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