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Mini-Update

#1 by GregariousJB » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:33 pm

A small update is being done on all realms that will only take a quick restart.

To take full advantage of these changes, erase your client's cache folder (done easily with our Eternal-WoW Launcher)

All Realms
  • The Essence of the Soul event trinket has been revamped to benefit all PvE roles, specifically tanks and healers.

Exile
  • Alliance Teleporter model fixed
  • Neutral Teleporter updated
  • Alliance and Horde guards on PvP Island are now immune to Root and Snare effects
  • Slight name change to the sharks at PvP Island

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  • The Dire Maul Arena has been given a facelift, courtesy of our in-game Architect, Saiyns.
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Re: Mini-Update

#2 by tiamant » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:36 pm

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Re: Mini-Update

#3 by jhucks2235 » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:30 pm

A trink for tanks that didn't have resilience would've been cool, but still looks good. :) You should add trinks for all classes/types/spec for dps. That would benefit alot more people, but it will also make them work for it.
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Re: Mini-Update

#4 by GregariousJB » Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:35 pm

jhucks2235 wrote:A trink for tanks that didn't have resilience would've been cool, but still looks good. :) You should add trinks for all classes/types/spec for dps. That would benefit alot more people, but it will also make them work for it.


I like the idea of class/spec specific trinkets, but we need to be careful not to make things too OP or funserver-ish. I might pursue this carefully in the future.

What do you mean a trinket for tanks without resilience? The Essence of the Soul doesn't have resilience and it is very useful for building threat, along with increasing healing longevity for healers.
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Re: Mini-Update

#5 by josef006 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:52 am

I don't know if it's just me, but the trinket doesn't proc Greatness. I'm not sure if it has something to do with it being "Use: (description)" rather than "Equip: (description)" (as compared to DMC: Greatness).

That bug aside, I think the changes didn't make the trinket any more useful than last time. It just became accessible to healers and tanks, but still nothing special. Especially since to melee DPS, it's nothing more than a Darkmoon Card with Expertise (good but not a necessity), and without the stats.

I understand the caution by not making it too OP, but right now it's just not worth anything. It'll stay in stuck in my bag, outshined by simple trinkets better than it and are over 9000 GS lower.

In my opinion, its a good decision to make the event trinket accessible to tanks and healers, but putting everything in one trinket wouldn't do it.

Or if you still want to do it, make it a plain DMC: Greatness without the raw stats and a 540 stat proc (300 from original proc + 90 from original raw stats given + 150 since its an "upgrade"). With this, at least you can be sure it'll be an upgrade.

Also, thanks for the updates on Exile :)
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Re: Mini-Update

#6 by chillitarier » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:30 am

I think it is a good idea,since expertise still is useful for MELEE dps

but the older trinket was just overpowered

a tank with resilience instead of being def capped fails btw^^
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Re: Mini-Update

#7 by GregariousJB » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:44 am

josef006 wrote:I don't know if it's just me, but the trinket doesn't proc Greatness. I'm not sure if it has something to do with it being "Use: (description)" rather than "Equip: (description)" (as compared to DMC: Greatness).

That bug aside, I think the changes didn't make the trinket any more useful than last time. It just became accessible to healers and tanks, but still nothing special. Especially since to melee DPS, it's nothing more than a Darkmoon Card with Expertise (good but not a necessity), and without the stats.

I understand the caution by not making it too OP, but right now it's just not worth anything. It'll stay in stuck in my bag, outshined by simple trinkets better than it and are over 9000 GS lower.

In my opinion, its a good decision to make the event trinket accessible to tanks and healers, but putting everything in one trinket wouldn't do it.

Or if you still want to do it, make it a plain DMC: Greatness without the raw stats and a 540 stat proc (300 from original proc + 90 from original raw stats given + 150 since its an "upgrade"). With this, at least you can be sure it'll be an upgrade.

Also, thanks for the updates on Exile :)


You make a good point, but I don't want it to be too OP. However, its intention is to replace a useful PvE trinket, so let's see what I can do about that:

Greatness proc fixed (Oops!)
Spirit increased from 262 to 312
Expertise increased from 145 to 200
Armor increased from 1972 to 2230
Blue socket added (+12 stam socket bonus)

200 Expertise is the soft cap (to completely prevent being dodged), and since the hard cap to prevent parries (431 expertise rating) isn't logical to attempt to reach without drastically reducing tanking effectiveness, this will allow tanks to immediately be able to generate impressive threat while at the same time allowing them to re-focus on mitigation stats (which is helped slightly by the gem slot and boosted armor). Likewise, it will buff the effectiveness of DPS classes, assuming they attack the mob from behind to prevent being parried.

I'm glad you spoke up about it. I felt it was lacking slightly, and you verified it.

Remember to delete your cache folders again, and this update will be seen the next time the server restarts.
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Re: Mini-Update

#8 by josef006 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:07 am

Thanks for hearing me out at least. :)

The recent buff looks tempting... Too tempting, actually. I didn't think a buff to its stats would do the job, but by the looks of things I think it may. I'm not sure if cake tastes good or bad just yet, but I find myself drooling to try it out.

Will test it as soon as the servers restart.
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Re: Mini-Update

#9 by jijiberbecali » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:10 am

it sucks.. spent so many nights to get this thing and now it is useless for my hunter. :(
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Re: Mini-Update

#10 by Mattmeck1 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:26 am

jijiberbecali wrote:it sucks.. spent so many nights to get this thing and now it is useless for my hunter. :(



yea because Expertise is worthless for hinters, and so is the greatness prock... right?
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Re: Mini-Update

#11 by jijiberbecali » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:29 pm

greatness buff is ok, but instead of expertise you could of chosen armor penetration or critical, or something that is useful to all classes. or maybe make another event trinket that would fit for classes for which actual EOS is obsolente which can be bought with the EOS.
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